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Bobby, listen carefully. Somebody is playing tricks on both of us and maybe including David. Try to carefully scroll down to the 3rd post. It is supposed to come from me and signed by me at the bottom. It says  ate: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 7:42 PM. There are passages there that were lifted from my posts that you were supposed to refute but which I now realize as being authored by some crackpot out to cause dissension between us or among us. The cussing at the bottom is supposed to come from you, although my name is signed at the bottom. You'll notice that the whole post is disjointed. Somebody who is following our thread must be very sick. He needs help badly before he can wreck further damage among friends. .....Cesar P. - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
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David, all you're doing all along is pile statistics upon statistics about how many of?this and that group believe in the?Absolute Being?or how religious they are. I concede your statistics prove one thing that most people do believe?in the Infinite Soul as well as in?miracles also.?There is no quarrel over those. We know that all along.?But this faith?does not?constitute proof of the existence of a Supreme Being unless accompanied by empirical evidentiary confirmation.?I'm glad though?that you have tacitly admitted?the importance of statistics, one of empiricism's useful methodology, by employing them in your task. Let's be pragmatic though. Let's not beat around the bush. (A?favorite _expression_,?as you may have noticed by now. I should really drop it since?Dubya is no longer with us to kick around.) I know you are averse, for reasons that are unexplained or unfathomable, to?the Infinite Being demonstrating His presence or?His omnipotence before man. I have touched on this before,?but all I?ask is one demonstration and that is the transformation of all the?barren lands?on Earth into fertile ones right before our eyes.?That would be the Mother of All Miracles. Not another apparition, please.?(They are a dime a dozen.) The spectacle would serve a double purpose: demonstrating?divine power and at the same time serving to alleviate the hungry?multitude. I do not know why that simple demonstration would be _object_ionable to David. It would settle the question once and for all. And a bonanza to the hungry millions around the world at the same time. ......Cesar P. ? ? - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
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Cesar, the statistics I presented prove that a majority of medical scientists believe in the existence of God. The term infinite soul is your own digression and is not found in all the testimonies I have posted. All the information I posted shows that there are many scientists who acknowledge God's existence, that is why you have no recourse but to concede. As for your need for a demonstration of God's miracle, I think you should channel your wishlist to God and not to me. You should pray in faith that your miracle will be granted. Of course we know you can't do that because you have no f
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As I have remarked in the past, only 7% of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believe in a Supreme Being. That means fully 93% of the membership are either agnostics or atheists or other than a believer in a Deity. As you can see, these men of science do not reflect that of the society they come from. But their calling is largely responsible for the great advances made in modern day living enjoyed by that society as well as by others around the world. I would caution David that the vast majority of American physicians are not scientists, although this majority may believe in the Infinite Soul. (BTW, the phrase, Infinite Soul, is not any of my digressions. It is just another appellation for the Supreme Being.) That's the bottom line, David. Faith is the only thing that backs you up in your system of belief. And my own faith in the Two-headed Unicorn is just as valid as yours. .....Cesar P. PS. David says, The cause of hunger is greed, look around you. I wish you and other self-proclaimed effective prayers of your friends would band together and pray for the banishment of greed, at least in the Islands, to relieve hunger in the benighted country of ours. Why did the Almighty allow this to happen, in the first place, to cause so much suffering especially among the innocents among us? There is just no rhyme or reason to it. If the generation of the Pharisees, as you have quoted from the Bible, was denied a sign or a demonstration by the Infinite Being of His Omnipotence, might ours be granted one this time, two millennia later? BTW, you have kept hammering, ad absurdum, on Black's and Bouviers Law Dictionary re definition of God, so then how did they prove the existence of the Deity, as you seem to contend? - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
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Subject: Fwd: On matters divine As I have remarked in the past, only 7% of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believe in a Supreme Being. That means fully 93% of the membership are either agnostics or atheists or other than a believer in a Deity. As you can see, these men of science do not reflect that of the society they come from. But their calling is largely responsible for the great advances made in modern day living enjoyed by that society as well as by others around the world. Prove your numbers. My citations are credible. Yours? I would caution David that the vast majority of American physicians are not scientists, So physical medicine is not a science? although this majority may believe in the Infinite Soul. Prove it! (BTW, the phrase, Infinite Soul, is not any of my digressions. It is just another appellation for the Supreme Being.) Still a digression from God. That's the bottom line, David. Faith is the only thing that backs you up in your system of belief. And my own faith in the Two-headed Unicorn is just as valid as yours. I have two friends of whom you conveniently cower away from, Black and Bouvier. Your two-headed unicorn isn't even the children's dictionary ergo a figment of your empirical (?) imagination. .....Cesar P. PS. David says, The cause of hunger is greed, look around you. I wish you and other self-proclaimed effective prayers of your friends would band together and pray for the banishment of greed, at least in the Islands, to relieve hunger in the benighted country of ours. Why did the Almighty allow this to happen, in the first place, to cause so much suffering especially among the innocents among us? There is just no rhyme or reason to it. For a doctor and a man of science you must have hear of free will? Greed is an act of free will. While God allows this, on judgement day everyone will answer for their acts. Matthew 25:44 If t he generation of the Pharisees, as you have quoted from the Bible, was denied a sign or a demonstration by the Infinite Being of His Omnipotence, might ours be granted one this time, two millennia later? That is up to God. BTW, you have kept hammering, ad absurdum, on Black's and Bouviers Law Dictionary re definition of God, so then how did they prove the existence of the Deity, as you seem to contend? They defined God with a legal presumption in favor of believers GOD. From the Saxon god, good. The source of all good; the supreme being. 1. Every man is presumed to believe in God, and he who opposes a witness on the ground of his unbelief is bound to prove it. 3 Bouv. Inst. u. 3180. But the punchline is that the burden of proof of showing He does not exist is on unbelievers. This is a legal, internationally accepted definition. Go ahead and refute their definitions. See if you can find the same legal and international authority for the recognition of your two-headed unicorn.... David - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
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